Understanding: The Father Son Holy Spirit
by Juan Baixeras
Index
But what about these proof texts?
Here are some of the most often misinterpreted and/or misunderstood verses in the Bible in relation to the idea
that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are members of a triune God. In order to read these verses you cannot just read one
verse and stop, you have to read the entire passage and compare it to other verses to understand what is being
said.
Before we start, a good understanding of creation will help us to understand several verses which people have
tried to use to mean that Jesus was responsible for creation, or was an agent for God in creation, or that somehow he
was involved in, or was present during creation. This incorrect assumption will of course lead to other
misinterpretations of Scripture such as John 1: 1 - 3 and Hebrews 1:2.
In order to read the Bible correctly you first have to have a solid base in the Old Testament. Once you
have a good foundation in the Old Testament, then, you can really start to understand the New Testament. Unfortunately,
most people do it backwards. They read the New Testament first, and then try to cram their beliefs into the Old
Testament. This does not work. It is like trying to do Algebra before you have learned to add and subtract. You cannot
learn Algebra first and then learn to add and subtract, you have to learn to add and subtract first, and then proceed
to learn Algebra.
We will begin with the verse in Genesis 1: 26 which reads:
"Then God said, "Let us make man in our image..."
Some people claim that God is speaking to the other members of the trinity here. The Hebrews to whom God gave
the Hebrew Srciptures to for thousands of years before Christ have never thought that this verse implied that God was
plural, or that anyone else was involved in creation. Did God simply want to mislead them? I do not think that is very
likely. There are two possibilities for this language. One is that God is talking to the angels. This interpretation is
maintained by many scholars who are themselves Trinitarians. The NIV Bible, which is a Trinitarian Bible, states
the following on this verse:
Genesis 1:26: "Some think this describes God speaking to His heavenly court."
Isaiah 8:6 supports this idea and form of language. God is speaking to His heavenly court, it
states:
"Then I heard the voice of the LORD saying, whom shall I (singular) send? And who will go for
us (plural)?"
The second is that it is simply a literary style of writing. A mistake that many people make is that they take
a verse in the Bible and create an entire doctrine from one verse. We will be looking at the entire picture of
creation. First of all, it says, "God said" It does not say, "The Father said," which obviously
means that whoever God is speaking to is not God. This leaves us with the possibility of the angels,
which according to Job 38: 7 were present at creation. It also says, "Let us make man in our image." If
this verse is taken to mean that God is speaking to the other members of the trinity and we are made in their image,
then we should also be three in one. I should be able to talk to my three in one counterparts in the same way that God
is doing. This idea does not have a high probability. After this verse we see that God is referred to in the singular
repeatedly. In fact, God is referred to in the singular over five thousand times in the Old Testament. In verse 1:27 it
says,
"God created man in his image."
It continues to use "he" twice more in the same verse. Verse 1:29 it uses "I," verse 30 & 31 uses
"I" and "he." Verses 2:1-3 use "he," "he rested," "he," and "he had done." Notice that in
verse 2:1 it says,
"He rested on the seventh day."
It does not say that they rested on the seventh day. One note before proceeding, in the Old Testament,
Gods name in over fifty-five hundred places is always written as four consonants, which in Hebrew are translated
as YHWH, which is where we get Yahweh or its English translation of Jehovah. The Jews thought that it was a violation
of the Ten Commandments to say Gods name, so whenever they reached a verse that had YHWH in it they would say
"LORD" (adonai). Christians translated our Bibles using this Jewish custom and completely removed YHWH and
substituted it literally with a capitalized "the LORD." This understanding is crucial. Hebrew translations still
have YHWH. Now, on to the Scriptures.
Isaiah 44: 24: "This is what THE LORD (YHWH) says - your redeemer, who formed you in the womb:
I am the LORD, (YHWH) who has made all things, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out
the earth by MYSELF."
Isaiah 45: 11-12: "Thus says the LORD, (YHWH)... It was I who made the earth and
created mankind upon it; it was my hands that stretched out the heavens..."
It is clear that YHWH is alone responsible for creation and no one else. Of course people will
now argue that YHWH includes the Son and the Holy Spirit. To show the fallacy of this argument, we will go to Psalm
110.
Psalm 110: 1 - 4: "The LORD (YHWH) says to my Lord" (adoni),
"Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."...You are a priest forever in the
order of Melchizedek."
Adoni, means sovereign, Lord, and master. It is definitely not to be confused with adonai, which
the Jews substituted for YHWH when they read the Scriptures.
Jesus uses this verse to describe himself. It is used in Hebrews 1: 13 for Jesus again. It is the most
quoted Old Testament Scripture in the New Testament. No one would argue that Lord (adoni) is not a reference to
the Messiah (Jesus). So we have a verse that says,
"YHWH says to the Messiah" (Jesus).
This clearly shows that Jesus is not included in the name YHWH.
Conclusion: This not only shows that YHWH and Jesus are not the same being, but it also shows that Jesus had
absolutely nothing to do with creation. What the verses that speak of Jesus creating the world are referring to
is that God through Jesus created the Messianic world to come, (the New Heavens and the New Earth) not the earth and
the rest of the universe. This will be evident when we study those specific verses in the book of Hebrews.
With this base we can now go on to the New Testament. Whenever you see verses that say that everything was
created through Christ, you now have the base to know that it doesnt mean he created everything. The word
"through" in Greek, According to Strongs Greek Dictionary means: because of. Now with this
knowledge read John 1: 1-3 and Hebrews 1:2 again. Different story isnt it? Hebrews 1:2 is explained
on page 50.
John 1: 1 - 3 "The Word"
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in
the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."
Right away you can see that there is something not quite correct, for if someone is with someone else, he
cannot also be that same person. If John was really trying to say that Jesus is God, he would simply have written; in
the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God. But he does not, because as we shall see, this is
not what this verse is about.
But now we will get to the real problem with this verse. Let us start by saying that "the Word" in
John 1: 1 - 3 is not (as we shall see) a reference to Jesus. Yet, theologians have taken the liberty to
substitute figuratively and literally "Jesus" for "Word" in this verse. Is this accurate? Judge for
yourself.
"I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of
God" (Revelation 20: 4 -5).
"His servant John, who gives witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus
Christ"(Revelation 1:2).
These verses use the exact same word "logos." It is important to notice that they were beheaded for
their testimony of Jesus AND the word (logos) of God. John gives witness to the word of God (Gods plan of
salvation) AND to the testimony of Jesus Christ. It is obvious that Jesus is not logos. Logos is used in
many places in the New Testament, and it is never used as a reference to Jesus.
"Word" in this verse is a translation of the Greek word "logos." In the original Greek
text, "logos" does not have the capital first letter given to "Word" in the English translation. It
should properly be translated "word" (with a small "w"). Furthermore, although in Greek "logos" is
a masculine noun, this is no proof of personality. This comes into play in the verse, "Through him all things were
made." The Greek word that has been translated as "him" can be translated as "it," "he," or
"she" depending on the noun it is describing. In this case, since theologians were claiming that "Word"
is a reference to Jesus, they obviously chose "him" instead of "it." This unfortunately reflects more
theology than it does strict accuracy.
Another important point to be recognized is the fact that the same exact word (letter for letter)
"logos" is used in other Scriptures, and nobody has ever capitalized it, or claimed that it referred to Jesus.
Examples:
2 Timothy 2: 8 - 9
"This is my gospel, for which I am suffering to the point of being chained like a criminal. But
Gods word is not chained."
1 John 2:7
"Beloved, I am writing no new commandment to you but an old commandment that you had from the
beginning. The old commandment is the word that you have heard."
Hebrews 4: 12 -13
"For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates
even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing
in all creation is hidden from Gods sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him, to whom
we must give account."
1 John 2:7 uses the same word "word" (logos). John says that what you heard from the beginning
is the old commandment, and the old commandment is the word of God. The "word" is not Jesus. What is
from the beginning is Gods word, His commandment. This verse is an excellent verse to compare to John 1:1.
It shows you that when John is speaking about the word (logos) that he is not referring to Jesus.
Hebrews 4: 12 - 13 is also an excellent example. In all these verses "word" is not
capitalized. You can also see that in the rest of this verse "word" is referred to as
"it." This is the correct way to translate the Greek word that was translated as "him."
This is the way it should have been translated in John 1: 1 - 3. It should be noted that the "Word " was
not assumed to be a second person in Bible translations prior to the KJV. The Bishops Bible of
1568, replaced by the KJV in 1611, understands the word to be impersonal, and uses the pronoun "it,"
as does the Geneva Bible of 1560.
John 5: 37 - 38 is also an excellent example, it says:
"You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not
believe the one he sent."
Jesus is saying, that when you believe in him, Gods word will dwell in you, which
is Gods will, which is God. The Word is God. If logos is a reference to Jesus, then it is saying that Gods
Jesus will dwell in us. I do not think you will find a single scholar that would agree with that interpretation.
Notice that in all these Scriptures the "word" does not even come close to referring to Jesus. In fact,
Jesus in the above verse says, that when you believe in him you will receive Gods word, which is obviously not
Jesus.
To a Hebrew like John, the phrase "word of God" According to Vines Expository Dictionary of Old
and New Testament Words means, "The revealed will of God." In 2 Kings 3:12 when it says:
"He has the word of the LORD."
It means that God revealed His will to him. We can also compare other verses to verify this
definition.
2 Peter 3:5: "that long ago by Gods word the heavens existed and the earth was formed
out of water."
Revelation 4:11: "for you created all things, by your will they came into
being."
Sirach 42:15: "At Gods word were His works brought into being."
As you can see, word and will are interchangeable. Gods word represents his thoughts, which are
His will. Sirach 37:16 provides us with an excellent example:
"A word is the source of every deed; a thought, of every act."
Your thoughts are the source of your actions, a word (your will) is your
thoughts expressed. This is an important definition to remember in order to better understand "The Word was
God" which we will explain in the next few pages.
The New American Bible has this to say about the word "logos" in a footnote:
"May denote an internal reasoning process, plan, or intention, as well as an external word,
speech, or message."
In Greek, the word "logos" according to Vines Expository Dictionary means:
Logos - The expression of thought. As embodying a conception or idea.
According to Liddell and Scott Greek Lexicon, it also means:
Logos - the inward thought which is expressed in the spoken word.
This unfortunately is not what it meant to Greek philosophy. In Greek philosophies such as Stoicism, and
Platonism, "logos" was considered divine. To a Stoic, logos means "the divine principle of life." This is
basically a definition of God. Let's take a very brief look at the definition of Stoicism in The Internet
Encyclopedia of Philosophy. It states:
In physics the foundation of the Stoic doctrine was the dogma that all true being is corporeal. Within the
corporeal they recognized two principles, matter and force--that is, the material, and the Deity (logos, order,
fate) permeating and informing it. Ultimately, however, the two are identical. There is nothing in the world with any
independent existence: all is bound together by an unalterable chain of causation. The agreement of human action with
the law of nature, OF THE HUMAN WILL WITH THE DIVINE WILL, or life according to nature is Virtue, the chief good
and highest end in life.
Notice that they recognized two principles, matter and the Diety which is the logos. They belived that humans
are composed of matter and a divine side. As the words in capital letters state, of a human will and a divine will.
This is exactly the definition for Jesus that the church opted for at the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD. You hear this
explanation all the time. "Jesus' divine side knew something that his human side did not." This is where it
comes from.
In Gnosticism "Logos" was the actual name of one of the intermediary gods.
Someone educated in one of these philosophies would interpret John 1: 1 in the following manner.
"In the beginning was the divine principle of life, the divine principle of life was with God, and the
divine principle of life was God." Verse 14. "The divine principle of life became flesh."
Now you have God in heaven and in the flesh at the same time. The explanation came in the form of the trinity.
Now lets see what this verse really means.
In the beginning was the Word.
Let us look at another verse of John to shed some light on this verse. Paraphrasing 1 John 1:1-2:
"The promised Word of eternal life was with the Father from the beginning. It was manifested to us as
Jesus. In other words, God had in His mind a thought, a plan (logos) of salvation for us from the
beginning, (from Genesis) and it was revealed to us by Jesus."
The Bible states:
"Long ago I prepared it. From days of old I planned it."(Isaiah 37:26).
"To do what your hand and your will had long ago planned to take place" (Acts 4:
28).
(Paul) "For I did not shrink from proclaiming to you the entire plan of God." (Acts
20:27).
One of the Apostolic writings, The Epistle to Diognetus in verse 8:11 says:
"But when he revealed it through His beloved Son, and manifested the purpose which He had prepared
from the beginning."
Notice that what was prepared from the beginning is Gods purpose (logos), and it was
revealed by Jesus. Another of the Apostolic Fathers named Polycarp, who knew John the Apostle
personally, wrote in his Letter to the Philippians in verse 7:2:
"Wherefore let us forsake the vain doing of the many and their false teachings, and turn unto the
word which was delivered unto us from the beginning."
Polycarp is urging the people to turn away from false teachings and turn unto the word. His usage of
word is very Jewish, and identical to the way John the Apostle uses it. This is fitting because Polycarp was a
disciple of John, and one would expect his views to coincide with Johns, which they do. Polycarp is saying, turn
away from false teachings and turn unto the word (plan, will) of God which was delivered unto us from the
beginning (from the time of the Patriarchs).
Polycarp has no idea of the "word" being Jesus. He even says that the word was delivered unto us in the
beginning. Jesus was not delivered unto us in the beginning, He was revealed to us in the final days, the
last days. Hebrews 1:2 states:
"In these last days He spoke to us through a son."
1 Peter 1:20 says:
"He was known before the foundations of the world, but revealed in the final times for you."
But Gods plan, or will, (the Messiah and the kingdom of God) was delivered unto us in the
beginning through the Patriarchs and the Prophets. This is a direct parallel to John 1:1. In the
beginning was the word (Gods plan of salvation for us). What is from the beginning is Gods plan (logos)
for our salvation that He revealed to us in these last days through Jesus. Ephesians 3:11 confirms this
again:
"This was according to the eternal purpose that He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord."
And the Word was with God.
When John says that the word was with God, he simply means that the "word" (plan) was present
in His mind. It was with Him, just like a persons thoughts are with them until they speak. The
Catholic New American Bible defines "word" as: was thought to be a reality lodging within the
person, and that it goes out from that person when spoken or written and then lodges within the person to whom it
is directed.
Jeremiah 4: 14:"How long must your pernicious thoughts lodge within you".
And the word was God.
The word is Gods thoughts and will which He uses to communicate with us and which He can transfer
into power. Gods will and power is God. What John is saying is, Gods will (word) is fully
expressive of Gods mind. Gods word (thoughts, will,) are reflective of the attributes of
God. Word = Gods Will = God.
The Trinitarian (Catholic) New American Bible states the following on this verse:
"Lack of a definite article with "God" in Greek signifies predication rather than
identification."
- And,
"The Word shares Yahwehs covenant qualities."
According to Websters Dictionary, predication means, "to affirm as a quality or attribute."
Even the Roman Catholic Bible tells us that it does not signify identification.
In simpler terms, what somebody says or writes usually reflects that person. You can see that person's
personality or intellect by what they say or write. For example, if you ask someone who is reading Romeo and
Juliet "what are you reading?" They might answer you, "I am reading Shakespeare." Literally this is
impossible. How can you read a man? Yet, this statement is very common and we all know what it means. Shakespeare =
Shakespeare's words.
In the Bible, attributes of God are commonly personified. This does not mean that they are separate persons of
the same God. Take Psalms 85:11-14 for example:
"Love and truth will meet, justice and peace will kiss. Truth will spring from the earth; justice will look
down from heaven. The LORD will surely grant abundance; and our land will yield its increase. Properity will march
before the Lord and good fortune will follow behind."
Obviously love and truth are not beings. Justice and peace cannot actually kiss. Prosperity cannot march, etc.
They are attributes of God that are personified. The NAB has the following footnote on this verse:
Psalms 85:11-14 - "Divine activity is personified as pairs of virtues."
Another example which is very closely related to John 1:1-3 is in Proverbs chapter 8. Here wisdom (which is
almost synonymous with word) is personified as a woman. It is very obvious that it is personified. All major Bible
scholars and commentaries will agree that wisdom here is personified and is not another being. In the first verse it
says;
"Does not wisdom call, and understanding raise her voice."
The problem is that if we make "wisdom" a being, then we also have to make "understanding" one also. Please
read all of chapter 8, it will help you immensely.
Wisdom is attributed with being with God from the beginning ( just like the word was in the beginning). When
God created the heavens and earth she was his craftsman (v.22), ( just like the word created everything). She was
beside him (v.30 just like the word is with God). The LORD begot her, the firstborn of his ways (v.22). It sounds
exactly like the Trinitarian pre-existent Christ. Yet, when one reads this chapter it is clear that it is an attribute
of God that is being personified. The NAB footnote states:
Proverbs 8:1 - "Wisdom here is personified as in Prv. 1:20-33 to confirm the words of the teacher of
wisdom."
Wisdom in chapter 8 is spoken of as if she created the heavens and earth. In Proverbs 3:19 God created the
heavens and earth through his wisdom. In 2 Peter the Word is spoken of as creating the heavens and earth. Let's
compare.
Proverbs 3:19 - "The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, established the heavens by
understanding."
2 Peter 3:5 - "That long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of
water."
In John 1:14 when the Word becomes flesh (which we will cover shortly), It is easier to understand John's
intention if you think of Proverb's wisdom. God's wisdom became flesh, meaning that in Jesus, God's wisdom was
manifested. In other words, Jesus brought us God's wisdom because God anointed Jesus with his own spirit so that Jesus
could speak to us on his behalf in the final days (Hebrews 1:2). In other other words , we heard and saw God's wisdom
in the person of Jesus because God commanded Jesus what to say to the people on his behalf (John 8:40).
We can also cross-reference other Scriptures to prove that the Word (God's message which reflects his thoughts
and will) is God.
Examples:
Jonah 1: 1 - 3
"The word of the LORD came to Jonah son of Amittai, "Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it,
because its wickedness has come up before me." But Jonah ran away from the LORD and headed for Tarshish."
It says the word (revealed will of God) of the LORD came to Jonah, then it says that Jonah ran
away from the LORD. God came to Jonah and told him His will or plan (which was to go to Nineveh), and
Jonah ran away from God. The Word (Gods will) is God.
Isaiah 55: 11
"So shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth; It shall not return to me void, but shall do
my will, achieving the end for which I sent it".
In this verse, when God speaks, His thoughts and power (His word) go out from Him to do His will.
Gods will is God. The Word is God.
The gospel which is Gods plan of salvation for us (the kingdom of God message), which is
His will, is reflective of the mind of God. My mind is reflective of me. It reflects who I am as a
person. The gospel is referred to many times in the New Testament as the "word of God," or just the
"word." The gospel (His word) is the expression of Gods thoughts. In other words, the gospel is
the mind of God. The mind of God is God. Another way of saying it is, "the gospel is God," or: "The
Word was God."
Through him all things were made
John is describing how God made the world and universe, through his word. The translation "through
him" should be "through it" (His word). This again reflects the theological bias of the translators.
Here are a few examples:
2 Peter 3:5 - "But they deliberately forget that long ago by Gods word the heavens
existed and the earth was formed."
Revelation 4:11 - "For you created all things; because of your will they came to be and were
created."
Ephesians 1:1 - "In accord with the purpose of the one who accomplishes all things
according to the intention of His will."
Wisdom 9:1 - "God of my fathers, LORD of mercy, you who have made all things by your word"
(will).
Sirach 42:15 - "At Gods word (will) were His works brought into being."
Remember earlier when we covered creation, that YHWH alone created everything. This is why it is
important to have a solid foundation in the Old Testament before reading the New Testament. Everything was created by
Gods word (His plan, will), not by Jesus. In other words, God has a plan (logos) to create the universe.
When He speaks (word), he is expressing His thoughts. His thoughts are His will, and whatever God wills
happens. This is how everything was created by the word (His will).
John 1: 14
The Word became flesh
The prophecies that God had spoken of in the past to the fathers and the prophets about the Messiah were
fulfilled when Jesus was born. In order to understand this verse better I am going to use an analogy of which
most of us can relate to. Say that you and your spouse decide to have a child. You have an idea, (logos) a plan
in your mind to have a child. That plan becomes flesh when your child is born. Gods logos
(plan of salvation) became flesh, became a reality when Jesus was born. We can see this type of expression
used again by John in 1 John 1:1-2 and John 9:3:
"Concerns the Word of life - for the life was made visible."
(The blind man) "Neither he nor his parents sinned; it is so that the works of God might be made
visible."
Gods plan and works, became visible in the person of Jesus and of the blind man. It does not mean that
Gods Word became incarnate in Jesus or that His works became incarnate in the blind man. It is the same in John
1:14.
Johns gospel was not written to prove that Jesus is God, but that he is the Son of God, the
Messiah.
"But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah), the Son of God..."
(John 20: 31).
One final thought. If you believe that the Word is actually the incarnation of God which became flesh as Jesus,
then why would John end his thought in John 1:18 by saying that;
"No one has ever seen God."
Thousands of people saw Jesus in the flesh. John later repeats this statement in:
1 John 4:12 - "No one has ever seen God."
John 6:46 - "Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God."
1 John 4:20 "For whoever does not love a brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not
seen."
A lot of people have been falsely lead to believe that John 1: 1 - 3 is saying that Jesus is God, when
in fact it has nothing at all to do with the deity of Jesus.
John 10: 30
I and the Father are one.
Jesus and the Father are one, but not one in substance as Trinitarians will have you believe. They are one
in mind, or one in purpose. If you look at John 17: 11 it states:
"Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name - the name you gave me - so that they may be one as
we are one."
Either this verse is saying that all the Apostles are of the same substance (which is obviously ridiculous), or
that they are one in mind, or purpose, just as Jesus and God are.
1 Peter 3:8: "Finally, all of you, be of one mind."
Acts 4:32: "The community of believers was of one heart and mind."
Philippians 2:2: "Complete my joy by being of the same mind."
KJV 1 John 5: 7 - 8
For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three
are one.
The trinity is not alluded to any better than this. How can you argue this away? This is probably the most
misleading verse on this subject in the whole KJV. This verse does not even exist in the majority of Bibles. The
Quest Study Bible states:
"Since the oldest manuscripts do not have these words, they were apparently added centuries after
John wrote, perhaps as commentary."
This phrase above which is omitted in 99% of Bibles is commonly called the Johannine Comma. Ironically enough,
Erasmus did not include this phrase either in the first or second (ad.1519) editions of His Greek manuscript (upon
which the KJV is based). This was because none of the Greek manuscripts he used contained this phrase. However, his
decision was unpopular among his contemporaries, for this phrase had existed in the Latin Vulgate since the eighth
century. The western Church typically used the Latin Vulgate, not Greek manuscripts. In fact, most did not even learn
Greek until the time of Erasmus. Erasmus' contemporaries put such pressure on him to change this verse that Erasmus'
said if anyone could produce a Greek manuscript which contained the phrase, he would include it. After this (ad.1520),
a Franciscan friar named Froy (or Roy) produced a manuscript that he claimed was an ancient manuscript. This manuscript
is called the "old British copy." When Erasmus was informed about it, being a man of his word, he included the
disputed words in his 3rd edition published in 1522. But he also included a footnote that said he believed the
manuscript had been prepared for the express purpose of having him include the passage.
In fact, The friar had produced it himself for the sole purpose of having Erasmus include the Johannine Comma
in his text. To date, out of five thousand Greek manuscripts, this passage has been found in only four
Greek manuscripts (manuscripts are designated by number):
Manuscript # - Date
61 1520 AD
2318 - 1592 AD
629 - 14th -16th century
918 - 16th century
In addition it has been found written in the margins of four other Greek manuscripts.
Manuscript - Date
221 - 10th century
635 - 11th century
88 - 12th century
429 - 14th century
Thus the earliest the passage appears as part of the Greek text is in 16th century, most likely in the
manuscript used to convince Erasmus.
The Johannine Comma began to appear in Latin manuscripts in the fifth century, but was not included in Jerome's
Vulgate or any edition of the Vulgate until the eighth century. The first time we hear of the passage quoted as being
from John is in a fourth century Latin work Liber Apologeticus written by the Spanish heretic Priscillian, or
one of his followers. After that, the passage is quoted by some of the Latin fathers, and from the sixth century
forward it begins appearing in Latin manuscripts of the Bible. Furthermore, as Bruce Metzger has pointed out
"The passage is absent from the manuscripts of all ancient versions (Syriac, Coptic, Armenian, Ethiopic,
Arabic, Slavonic), except the Latin."
From this data, the true nature of 1 John 5:7 becomes clear. 1 John 5:6-9 is a passage that is
very difficult to interpret (I John 5:6 talks about the testimony of the water, blood, and Spirit). This was so
difficult to interpret that certain Latin writers included an explanation of the verse in the margins of their texts
(the Johannine Comma). Eventually, copiers of the Latin Vulgate included this marginal note into the text of the Latin
Vulgate in the eighth century, in other words, Perhaps an early scribe wrote it in the margins as a note, and a later
scribe copying the manuscript thought it was a correction and included it in the text).
The Western Church continued to use the Vulgate until the 16th century. By this time, the Comma had become
established in the Latin. When the western church began to learn Greek during the renaissance and no Greek manuscripts
included the Comma, people began to add the Comma to the Greek manuscripts. There is no reasonable explanation for the
Comma other than it was inserted into the Greek text by those familiar with the Latin Vulgate. Any explanation that
claims the Comma was included in the original text written by the Apostle John completely ignores the facts of the
case.
As you can see, therefore, it is not that other Bibles have taken a phrase out of the Bible. Rather, the KJV
mistakenly included a phrase that was not part of the original Greek manuscript.
Also, an excellent source of proof attaining to the falsehood of this verse is from the arguments over the
divinity of Christ in the fourth century. During all these arguments none of the Greek Fathers ever quoted this verse
as Scripture in order to prove the trinity, they did however, quote all the other traditional verses which people have
used in order to try and prove the trinity. If I were trying to prove the trinity, this would be my number one
verse! I would bring it up over and over again. How many people have been led astray by this persons
commentary? Research it for yourself!
Matthew 28: 19
Baptize them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
The New American Bible says: "this is perhaps the clearest expression in the New Testament of
Trinitarian belief." In a few seconds you will see how preposterous this statement really is. This verse has
absolutely nothing Trinitarian about it. It is about Jesus sending them out to proclaim the gospel to the nations.
First, a few definitions according to Vines Expository Dictionary:
Baptize - The phrase in Matthew 28: 19, "baptizing them into the name" would indicate that
the baptized person was closely bound to, or became property of, the one into whose name he was "baptized."
Name - Represents the authority, character. Expressing attributes. In acknowledgment or
confession of.
This verse has nothing to do with water baptizing. With these definitions we can safely paraphrase this verse
as follows:
"Go out into the world and introduce or bring them into the knowledge of the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Spirit,"
Which is exactly what they did. The Apostles went out into the Gentile world and brought them the knowledge of
who the only God is, who the Messiah is, and about the gifts of the Holy Spirit which they were going to receive. But
as you can see, this has nothing to do with the three being one. Human tradition has made this a Trinitarian
verse.
There is also a very strong position held by many scholars that this verse was not part of the original text of
Matthews Gospel, as Eusebius, a third century Christian apologist, quoted the text in a shorter form rather than
the form that now appears in the gospel. It reads,
"Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in my name" (which is in agreement with the
paraphrase that was just given above).
One commentator writes,
"There is much probability in the conjecture that it is the original text of the gospel, and that in the
second century the longer clause supplanted the shorter baptizing them in my name. An insertion of this
kind, derived from liturgical use, would have rapidly been adopted by copyist and translators" (The International
Critical Commentary, by Willoughby C. Allen Volume 26, pp. 307-308).
This position has strong Biblical support by the fact that the Apostles at no recorded instance baptize using
the formula of "The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" as Jesus supposedly commanded them to do. They always
baptize "In the name of Jesus Christ."
Also the parallel passage in Mark 16:15-18 does not mention in any way this trine formula, and the
Gospel of Mark is believed to be written before Matthew.
John 8: 58 "I AM "
You are not fifty years old," the Jews said to him, and you have seen Abraham! "I tell you the truth,
Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I am.
You have to look at the subject matter in this paragraph, which is Jesus age, not deity. The Jews
are asking Jesus how can he know Abraham if he is not even fifty years old. Jesus tells them that before Abraham was
born, I am. What Jesus is saying is that he is the one spoken of in the prophetic writings, long before Abrahams
time.
Let's look at the verse that started this whole misunderstanding so we can see what Jesus is referring to.
John 8: 56 says:
"Abraham your father rejoiced to see my day; he saw it and was glad."
Compare this verse with Hebrews 11: 13 which is talking about Abraham and his descendants. It states:
"All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised;
they only saw it and welcomed it from a distance."
What Abraham saw was the fulfillment of Gods promise that the savior would be his
descendant (Genesis12:3), and that line of descent started with their son Isaac. That is why it says
"they saw it and welcomed it from a distance." The Jews misunderstood what Jesus meant at John 8: 56 and
made it an issue of Jesus age, at which Jesus tried to correct them once again by saying, "Before Abraham was
born, I am" (The Messiah). Jesus is saying that before Abraham was even born, God had already planned him as the
Messiah in His mind.
1 Peter 1: 20 says:
"He was known before the foundation of the world."
Remember John 1: 1, "In the beginning was the word" (plan). Also, if you look at a Greek
Bible, the two words for I am are the exact two words used for I am in John 8: 12 and John 8:
24. In John 8: 12 Jesus says:
"I am the light of the world."
In John 8: 24 Jesus says:
"For if you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins."
John 8: 24 is the continuation of John 8:12. The first I am is obviously referring to
Jesus being the light of the world. The second I am is referring to Jesus being the light of the world, the Son
of God. These are the exact same words used in John 8:58, yet, no one has taken them to mean that Jesus was
claiming to be God. As a matter of fact, the KJV translates the Greek I am in John 8:24 as, "I am
he." In John 4:26, again, the same exact two words are used as in John 8: 58. The Samaritan woman has
just said to Jesus,
"I know that the Messiah is coming, the one called the Anointed; when he comes, he will tell
us everything."
Jesus says to her, (the actual Greek translation)
"I am, the one speaking to thee. "
He is who? The Messiah that is coming. The KJV and NIV translate this verse as "I that speak unto thee am
he" and "I who speak to you am he." The I am here is referring to Jesus being the Messiah.
Mark 6:50 is about when Jesus walks on the water towards the disciples who are on a boat, and they think
that they are seeing a ghost. The actual Greek reads, "Be of good cheer, I am; be ye not afraid. " The
KJV and NIV translate this verse as,
"be of good cheer: It is I; be not afraid " and "Take courage! It is I. Dont be afraid."
None of these I am are taken to mean that Jesus is God. As a matter of fact, they are translated in a
variety of different ways, such as, "It is I" and "I am he." The beggar in
John 9:9 when asked if he is the one who used to sit and beg answers them by saying the exact same words, "I
am." Does that mean that the beggar is claiming to be God? Of course not!
So why do people claim that the John 8:58 I am is referring to the Exodus 3:14 I
AM? Because of human tradition, trying to make Scripture fit their thought, instead of the other way around.
It is the same exact I am as in the rest of these verses and the topic is obviously not Jesus deity. If
the John 8:58 I am refers to the Exodus 3:14 I AM, then the rest of the other I
am should also. But they DONT.
John 14: 9 - 10
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
People read this and stop right there. What they fail to see is how this is true. If you continue
reading it says:
"How can you say, "Show us the Father," Dont you believe that I am in The Father, and the Father is
in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather it is the Father living in me, who is doing His
work."
The reason that if you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father, is that the Father is in Jesus. He is
living in Jesus, and it is He who is doing all the work through Jesus. Read Acts 10:38 again
now.
If right now someone died right in front of you, and you went over there and said, "God, in the name of
Jesus raise this person," and they got up, who just raised that person? Was it you? Or was it God working through
you? If I had been a witness to that, I would have actually seen God raise the dead through you. That is exactly what
Jesus is saying in this paragraph, but you have to read all of it.
John 1:18: "No one has ever seen God."
John 6:46: "Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from
God."
1 John 4:12: "No one has ever seen God."
1 John 4:20: "For whoever does not love a brother whom he has seen cannot love God
whom he has not seen."
1 Timothy 6:16: "Whom no human being has seen or can see."
The first four verses are by the same author (John).
NIV 2 Peter 1: 1
Through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ...
Well thats pretty clear that God and Jesus are the same being. But if you look at other Bible
translations such as the KJV or a Greek and English Interlinear Bible it reads as:
"Through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ. "
A huge difference, a clear distinction between the two. A complete different meaning which now fits the rest of
the paragraph. If you take the previous view, now you have to explain why verse 2 says:
"Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord. "
The same author in 1 Peter 1: 3 states:
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
I doubt the same author would contradict himself so blatantly.
Titus 2:13
The appearance of the glory of the great God and savior Jesus Christ.
This verse has the exact same mistake as 2 Peter 1:1. Look it up for yourself. Titus 2:13 In the
Catholic New American Bible is stated as:
"The appearance of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ."
NAB Footnote: "But the use of a single article in Greek strongly suggests an epexegetical i.e.
explanatory sense, Of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ: another possible translation is "of our
great God and savior Jesus Christ."
I am sure the Catholic Church would like to use this verse to try and prove Jesus deity, but fortunately
they state the truth about this verse. This verse was also written by Paul who writes in 1 Corinthians 8:6:
"Yet for us there is only one God, the Father."
You decide which one is correct.
Revelation 22: 6 - 13
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
This is referenced to Revelation 1:8. But Revelation 1:8 is talking about The Almighty,
Revelation 22:12 is not using this title for Jesus but for God again. If we read Revelation 22:6 it tells
us who the subject is, "The Lord, the God of prophetic spirits." Jesus does say in Revelation 1:17 that,
"I am the first and the last." We will examine what he meant by that statement.
Just because the same title is used to describe two people does not mean that those two people are one. David
called King Saul "My Lord " but that does not make Saul God (1 Samuel 24:9).
Israels Judges were called "saviors" but that does not make them and Jesus one
person? (Nehemiah 9:27).
Jeroboam the Second of Israel is called "Israels savior," but that does not make him
Jesus? (2 Kings 13:5)
Before we discuss these verses it would benefit us to understand Johns view of God.
Examples:
John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have
sent."
Revelation 1:6
"Who (Jesus) has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father."
John 20:17
"But go to my brothers and tell them, "I am going to my Father and your Father, to my God and your
God."
In these verses John does not consider Jesus to be God in any way. For John, Jesus has a God. John also does
not believe Jesus to be omniscient even after his resurrected state. Revelation 1:1 says:
"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him."
Even after his resurrection Jesus is not omniscient. God still gives him revelations. Emphasis on
God gives him. Now we will look at Revelation 1:17 with the correct background of
Johns thinking, and not with a mind set on making Jesus God at all costs.
It is obvious that God Almighty is the first and the last, but how is Jesus also the first and the last? Jesus
is the first because he is the firstborn in two ways. One, he is the firstborn of God, which to the Jews implied that
as the firstborn you are entitled to be the heir of your father, which Jesus is (Hebrews 1:2). Also
according to Strongs Greek Dictionary it means foremost in importance, which Jesus certainly is.
This also corresponds with Psalms 89: 28 - 30.
Secondly, Jesus is the firstborn from the dead to be resurrected, which is what Jesus is speaking about
in Revelation 1:18 which follows his statement that he is the first and the last. It reads:
"I am the first and the last, the one who lives. Once I was dead, but now I am alive
forever."
This is also is in agreement with Colossians 1: 18. Jesus is the last because when he comes again it
will be the end of the present age, and he will be in effect the last one to enter this world while it is still under
the influence of Satan. He will then usher in the Messianic kingdom of God.
John 20: 28
My Lord and my God.
There you go, an Apostle refers to Jesus as God. When you look at some verses in the Old and New Testament you
have to remember to look at them with a Hebrew or Greek mind of that period, and not a 20th century mind.
Some language can mean something to us that it did not mean back then. For example, if an Englishman says, "I am mad
about my flat" he means that he is exited about his apartment. To an American, that same phrase means that he is
angry about his flat tire. The word "God" for example, means to us in the 20th century "The Almighty
God." To a Jew it did not necessarily mean "Almighty God." In Psalms 82: 1 & 6 God refers to
earthly rulers as gods. This is the same passage that Jesus quotes to the Jews when they accuse him of saying that
he is God. Paraphrasing Jesus, he says to them; "If it is okay to call men gods, why is it blasphemous for me to say
that I am the Son of God"(John 10: 33 - 38). Notice how when Jesus is accused of being God, he
quickly corrects them that he is not God, but the Son of God. In 2 Corinthians 4: 4 Satan is also
called the "god of this age." Does that mean that he is God Almighty? Of course not!
The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church points out what an early Christian father, Origen (185-254
AD) says about the word "God." "The Son is theos (God), but only the Father is autotheos" (absolute God,
God in himself).
This is the reason there is an Almighty God or a Most High God, in order to differentiate the only true
God from the others. Another fact to consider when approaching this verse is to understand whom John believes God
and Jesus to be.
John wrote his gospel to testify that Jesus is the Son of God, not God the Son. Let us take a look again
at what John believes in order to not take one verse and unjustly imply a certain belief on John.
John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have
sent."
Revelation 1:6
"Who (Jesus) has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father"
John 20:17
"But go to my brothers and tell them, I am going to my Father and your Father, to my God and
your God."
Remember that Johns whole purpose for writing his Gospel is to prove that Jesus is the
Christ, the Son of God, not God.
"But these are written that you may come to believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God"
(John 20: 31).
We must keep John's reason for writing his gospel fresh in our minds as we try to understand this verse. In his
gospel, John distinguishes completely between the only true God and Jesus Christ. To imply that John believed in a
three in one God would be to do a terrible injustice to John.
So what does Thomas mean? To us in the modern world it might at first seem odd, but when you put yourself in
Thomass place as a Jew in Jesus day, it will make all the sense in the world.
The Catholic New American Bible defines this usage of the word god:
"The king, in courtly language is called god, representing God to the people."
Aspects of Monotheism states: "god" is an allegorical equivalent for "king."
This is the definition of the Messiah. The Messiah is the king of Israel who represents God to
the people (John 1:49). Thomas was stating that fact. A fact which is continuously stated in John's gospel. When
he saw Jesus resurrected, it proved to him that He was indeed the Messiah. Thomas statement is the equivalent of
saying, My Lord and my king. This is not just my opinion; it is easily verified in the Old and New Testament.
Remember, God = king = Messiah.
This kind of language was common in those days. Lets look at a similar verse.
1 Samuel 24:9 states:
"David also stepped out of the cave, calling to Saul, "My lord and my king."
My lord and my God = My lord and my king.
This verse above means the same thing. Thomas is addressing the king of Israel in exactly the same way that
David did. You just have to think speak like a first century Jew.
Luke 2:11 states:
"A savior has been born for you who is Messiah and Lord."
Acts 2:36 states:
"God has made him both Lord and Messiah, this Jesus whom you crucified."
Lord and Messiah = Lord and king = Lord and God.
There is for me one great proof that Thomas did not mean Jesus is Almighty God when he called Jesus God. When
Thomas called Jesus "My lord and my God " all the Apostles were in the room. If this statement is true, then it
is logical to assume that from now on, all the Apostles know that Jesus is really God. So from that point onward Jesus
should be addressed as God. But as you can see in all the writings of the New Testament, none of the Apostles ever
refer to Jesus as Almighty God or YHWH. Not once in the entire New Testament do they ever pray to Jesus. They make
clear distinctions between the two. They in fact write about the God of Jesus Christ (John 20:17).
Remember,
"No one has ever seen God"(1 John 4: 12).
This verse is from the same author (John) written years AFTER the episode with Thomas.
BUT ONLY GOD CAN FORGIVE SINS
Jesus represents God on earth. God dwells in Jesus. God put everything under his feet.
People claim that only God can forgive sins, and because of this alone, Jesus is God. This view is very
narrow-minded and very incorrect. Jesus in Mark 2: 10 states:
"But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...He said to the
paralytic."
Revelation 12:10 states:
"Now salvation and power have come, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his
Anointed."
As Gods representative, Jesus has been given the authority to do anything that God would do. To be
specific, it is really God doing His works through Jesus (John 14: 10). God has given Jesus the
authority to forgive sins, just as He has given Jesus the authority to judge mankind. God will judge the
world through a man He has appointed, Jesus the Messiah.
Acts 17:31: "Because He has established a day on which he will judge the world with justice
through a man He has appointed, and He has provided confirmation for all by raising him from the
dead."
John 5: 22: "Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the
son."
John 5:27: "He has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of man."
Jesus can forgive sins and judge the world because as John 5: 27 and Acts 17:31 says, he has been
appointed the Son of Man, and he has been given the authority. Notice that after Jesus had healed
the paralytic and forgave his sins, the people were amazed and they praised God, not Jesus (Mark 2: 12). In
John 20: 23 Jesus states:
"If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not
forgiven."
Does that make all the apostles God? Of course not. They are now the representatives of God.
ONLY GOD CAN ACCEPT WORSHIP
People also claim that since Jesus accepted worship in a few verses, then that means that he is God. But every
time that Jesus is paid homage to in the Bible it is because he is the king of Israel, the Messiah, the Son of God.
According to Vines Expository Dictionary, worship means:
Worship - to make obeisance, do reverence to. The Greek word denotes an act of
reverence, whether paid to man or to God.
It was common in those days to worship the king. It was meant to show reverence to the king. This
is why people who came before the throne of a king always bowed down in front of it.
Aspects of Monotheism pg.94 states:
"According to the "Son of God Text" from Qumran, when war ceases on earth, all cities will pay homage either
to the "Son of God" or to the "people of God." Although homage in this passage involves political submission,
worship in the ancient world was often considered analogous to submission to a great king. Each of these
figures, to be sure, can be understood as Gods agent or representative, so that homage to given to them is
ultimately given to God."
King David was worshipped. Hendricksons Hebrew and English Interlinear Bible says:
"All the congregation blessed Jehovah, the God of their Fathers, and worshipped Jehovah and the
king" (1 Chronicles 29:20).
Solomon is worshipped."So the king (Solomon) shall desire your beauty; for he is your lord,
and you must worship him" (Hendricksons & NAB Psalm 45:12).
The saints will be worshipped. "I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know
that I have loved thee" (KJV Revelation 3: 9).
Daniel was worshipped. "Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell down and worshipped Daniel and ordered
sacrifice and incense offered to him" (NAB Daniel 2: 46).
King Nebuchadnezzar even offered sacrifices and incense to Daniel. Does that make Daniel God? Of course not!
Obviously neither King David, King Solomon, Daniel nor the saints are God. In the Bible people are worshipped for
different reasons, such as kings.
We must keep in mind that the Messiah is the king of Israel. Jesus does have the absolute right to be
worshipped, not as God, but as the Lord Messiah, our king. An excellent example is when the magi come to visit
baby Jesus. They have come to worship the new king of the Jews. This is why they prostrated themselves and paid him
homage. Matthew 2:2&11 states:
"Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to
worship him
They bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with
gifts of gold and of incense and of myrrh."
Why are they worshiping him? Because he is the king of the Jews. Bringing gifts was and still is
customary when coming in the presence of kings or heads of state. This is why the magi brought gifts. You will find
that in every instance that someone is worshipping Jesus it is because he is the Messiah, the Son of God, the king of
Israel. It is quite normal to show homage or reverence for the Son of God, our king, the Messiah. The NAB has
"homage" instead of "worship" In its translation. The same writer reports in Matthew 14:33, this
is when Jesus walks on the water.
"Those who were in the boat did him homage (some translations say "worship"), saying,
Truly, you are the Son of God."
Remember, Son of God = king of Israel (look at John 1:49 if you have any doubts).
In the KJV Mark 15:16-19 it is the Roman guards who are mocking him for claiming to be a king. It
states:
"And they clothed him with purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head, and began to
salute him, Hail, king of the Jews! And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and
bowing their knees worshipped him."
Why are the guards worshipping him? Is it because they think he is claiming to be God? Of course not. It says
it right in the verse. Purple was a sign of royalty, a crown is obviously related to a king, and then it comes out and
clearly tells you why they worshipped him in mockery, because Jesus claimed to be the king of the Jews, the Messiah.
ANGEL OF THE LORD
Trinitarians claim that the angel of the LORD is really Jesus in the Old Testament. You never see him again in
the New Testament, so it must have been Jesus.
It is really amazing to see the great lengths that Trinitarians have gone to in order to try and tie Jesus into
the Old Testament. In order to make this theory fit, we would first of all have to throw out the entire first
chapter of Hebrews that deals specifically with Jesus being superior to the angels. Secondly, you have to
understand the Jewish concept of agency. With the Jews, it is correct to address the person who is sent on
behalf of someone else as that person themselves. This is why sometimes the angel of the LORD in some passages is seen
as completely separate from the LORD, as in Zechariah 1: 12, where the angel of the LORD is having a
conversation with God, and at other times it seems as if they are the same being (Numbers 22: 22 - 39). A very
good example of this concept is in 2 Esdras 5: 43 - 56. Ezra questions Gods spokesman, the angel Uriel, as
though he were both Creator and Judge. Ezra uses the same style of address to Uriel ("my lord, my master") as he uses
in direct petition to God. But this does not make the angel of the LORD "God." The angel of the LORD is just
that, an angel. That is why he is called the angel of the LORD (Yahweh). To imply that the angel of the LORD is Jesus
is completely ludicrous and shows that one has a very limited knowledge of the Bible. First, why would Jesus have a
different name in the Old Testament? What purpose would that serve?
Secondly, and this will eliminate any doubt on this topic, is that Jesus and the angel of the LORD appear at
the same time, in the same place, in the New Testament in at least three places: Matthew 2: 13, 19 and
Luke 2: 9 - 13. In Matthew, the angel of the Lord appears to Joseph and tells him to take his child (who is
Jesus) and wife and go to Egypt. Then the same thing happens again, but this time the angel of the Lord tells Joseph to
go back to Israel. In Luke, the angel of the Lord tells the shepherds that the Messiah is at that very moment lying in
a manger. Now, unless we make God a quadrinity, it is obvious that Jesus is not the angel of the LORD.
Isaiah 9: 5
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be
called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
There, you see, the Messiah is supposed to be God. Wrong! If we take a closer look at this verse you will see
that it does not mean that at all. The phrase in question is Mighty God, and the proper understanding of
Everlasting Father is a must. First, Mighty God.
Not all Bibles use the translation of Mighty for the Hebrew word gibbor. The Jewish translators
of the Septaugint render it in the following manner, "The angel of great council." Angel meaning mesenger. But
we will address the ones that do just for arguments sake. First of all, we will take a close look at the Hebrew word
that is translated as Mighty. Translators have used Mighty for theological reasons, (so they can tie it
in to other verses that God is referred to as mighty, and thus claim that the Messiah is supposed to be God).
Lets see what a Hebrew dictionary and a Hebrew lexicon tells us about this word.
The Strongs Hebrew Dictionary defines this word as:
Gibbor by impl. warrior, tyrant:- champion, chief, X excel, giant, man, mighty (man, one),
valiant man. Mighty is the eighth definition of this word.
he Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon says of this word gibbor as it is used in
Isaiah 9: 5:
Isaiah 9:5 - ref. Messiah, attribute of God especially as fighting for his people. This
explanation doesnt even mention Mighty.
According to these sources, gibbor as it is used in Isaiah 9: 5 along with God means, a
warrior king with the attributes of God. This is exactly who the Messiah is supposed to be. This definition
agrees with the rest of the chapter in which Isaiah talks about how the Messiah will reign on Davids throne, and
how he will rule with justice and righteousness forever because of the zeal of the LORD Almighty. Isaiah does not
believe that the Messiah is supposed to be God, he distinguishes between them. He says how the Messiah will accomplish
everything because of the zeal of the LORD Almighty. We can also compare this chapter to Isaiah 11 in which he
is again speaking of the Messiah. In Isaiah 11: 1-3 he says how the Messiah will be from the root of Jesse, how
the Spirit of the LORD will rest on him, and how he will delight in the fear of the LORD. Now, are we
supposed to believe that the LORD will delight in the fear of Himself? Definitely not. Isaiah prophesying about
the Messiah says:
Isaiah 49:5: "And I am made glorious in the sight of the LORD, and MY GOD is my
strength."
From Isaiah 49:5 and 11:1-3 we can see that Isaiah understands the future Messiah to be a man on whom God's
spirit will rest (which is the meaning of the word "Christ") who will delight in the fear of his God, the
LORD. Isaiah does not consider the Messiah to be God in Isaiah 11:1-3 nor in Isaiah 49:5, and neither
does he believe that in Isaiah 9: 5.
The definition of the Messiah as a warrior king with the attributes of God, is seen in Revelation 19:
11 where it reads:
"Then I saw heaven standing open and there was before me a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful
and True. With justice he judges and makes war."
Now we will look at some other translations to see how they have interpreted this verse.
The New English Bible says, "In battle God-like."
The New American Bible (which is a Catholic Bible, they invented the trinity) says, "God- Hero."
It translates this verse in the following manner and has a note on this verse which is very interesting and
enlightening. First the translation. It states:
"They name him Wonder-Counselor, God-Hero, Father-Forever, Prince of Peace."
Footnote:
"Wonder- Counselor: remarkable for his wisdom and prudence.
God-Hero: a warrior and defender of his people, like God himself.
Father-forever: ever devoted to his people.
Prince of peace: his reign will be characterized by peace."
This exegesis is in complete agreement with the definitions and Bible passage that we have just examined.
Remember, this is the Catholic Churchs interpretation, I am sure that they would love to be able to say that
according to this passage the Messiah is supposed to be God, but even they dont.
For a better understanding of the term Father-Forever or Everlasting Father, (depending on your
translation) one must understand that kings were considered to be fathers of their people. The Messiah is
the King of Israel. I agree with the New American Bibles explanation of Father- Forever in this
verse.
We can also substantiate this definition by looking at another verse of the same writer in Isaiah 22: 20-
21:
"In that day I will summon my servant Eliakim son of Hilkiah. I will clothe him with your robe and fasten
your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and
to the house of Judah."
Isaiah obviously does not mean that Eliakim is God the Father. In Isaiah 9:5 he means that the Messiah as king
of the new Israel (the kingdom of God) will be like a father to his people forever.
Hebrews 1: 8-9
Your throne O God, stands forever and ever; and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom. You
loved justice and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, anointed you with the oil of gladness above your
companions.
This is the only other place besides John 20:28 in the New Testament where Jesus is referred to as God.
Does this imply that he is God Almighty? Not even close. This explanation has the same basic principle as John
20:28 which was discussed earlier, namely the usage of the word god. As was mentioned earlier, the term
god in the first century did not necessarily mean Almighty God.
In this verse the writer is quoting Psalm 45:7 word for word. This same verse was used for the Hebrew
King (probably Solomon) in Psalm 45:7, and nobody ever accused Solomon of being God. It will help us
tremendously to read Psalm 45 in its entirety. Please pay special attention to whom this Psalm is about. Who is singing
it to whom will be obvious in the second verse.
Psalm 45:2 states:
"My heart is stirred by a noble theme, as I sing my ode to the king. My tongue is the pen of a nimble
scribe."
As the Psalm says, a scribe is singing about the Hebrew king. Then we get to verse 7, but the subject has not
changed, it is still about the king. I think it would be helpful at this time to review a few notes from the NAB on
Psalm 45:7.
45:7: Your throne O God: The Hebrew king was called Elohim, "God," not in the polytheistic
sense common among the ancient pagans, but as meaning "godlike," or, taking the place of God.
45:7: god: the king, in courtly language, is called "god," representing God to the
people.
Aspects of Monotheism states that "god" is an allegorical equivalent for "king."
Psalms 45 is about the anointed king of Israel. Verse 8 says:
"Therefore God, your God, anointed you..."
As you can see, it was common to refer to the Hebrew king as "God" because he represented God to the
people, not because he was God. In other words, God gave His authority to the Hebrew kings, and in that sense they sat
on the throne of God, and in that sense they were addressed as god in their court. 1 Chronicles 29:23
states:
"Therefore Solomon sat on the throne of the LORD as king in place of his father David."
The whole point of chapter 1 in Hebrews is to prove the superiority of the Son (Messiah) over the angels, it is
not to prove the deity of Jesus. Paul in chapter 1 is arguing against a growing Gnostic belief. The Gnostics claimed
that there were many mediators between God and man, and that these mediators were spirits or angels. Jesus they
claimed, was just one of these angels. This is why Paul argues in verse 5 that God has never called an angel His son,
or made an angel His anointed king in verse 8-9, or sat an angel at His right hand in verse 13, nor subjected the world
to come to angel in verse 2:5.
Hebrews 1:8-9 is speaking about the Son being the king of Israel, the Messiah. It speaks about a throne,
a scepter and a kingdom. These are all things that are associated with a king as it was in Psalm 45:7, this is why it
was written of Solomon. Another way of saying this verse is, "Your throne O king." This is why it is also used
for the Messiah Jesus, because the Messiah is the king of Israel par-excellence who represents God
in His kingdom. Jesus will sit on the throne of God in the Messianic kingdom representing God to the people. Last, but
not least, is verse 9, which says:
"Therefore God, your God, anointed you..."
If we make Hebrews 1:8-9 to mean that Jesus is God, then we have a major conflict for any Trinitarian
doctrine. The reason being that it specifically says that the Son has a God who anointed him. If Jesus is
God, and he has a God, then there are TWO Gods. This is impossibility for
Christianity.
It is very easy to use the meanings of words which we are familiar with today, but we must always remember to
read the Bible with the mindset and the vocabulary of the people who wrote it.
1 TIMOTHY 3:16:
GOD MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH
This verse is translated like this in very few bibles. The correct translation is "Who was
manifested in the flesh." Lets look at the whole verse.
"Who was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed to the Gentiles,
believed in throughout the world, taken up in glory."
Every commentary that I have ever read agrees that this is talking about Jesus not God. Jesus was proclaimed
to the Gentiles, Jesus was believed in throughout the world, Jesus was taken up in glory, not God.
Bibles that have interpreted this verse with "God" instead of "Who" have used corrupted manuscripts.
Zondervans Greek and English Interlinear Bible translates it as "Who." The Catholic New American
Bible translates it as "Who." So where do these corrupted manuscripts come from?
The New American Bible has an excellent footnote on this verse:
1 Timothy 3:16: Many later (eight & ninth century on), predominantly Byzantine manuscripts
read "God" possibly for theological reasons."
The corrupted interpretations exist because some people wanted to prove the trinity at all costs, and in the
eighth & ninth century in Byzantium, they simply changed "who" to "God." In all fairness, the words
"who" and "God" in Greek are very similar. All that separates them is a dashed line. Maybe it was just an
unintentional mistake, but it is still a mistake.
If we were to believe that "God" was the correct interpretation, then how would we explain 1 Timothy
2:5:
"For there is one God. There is also one mediator between God and men, the man Christ
Jesus."
The writer of 1 Timothy does not believe Jesus to be God.
Hebrews 1:10
"In the Beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your
hands."
The argument is, that since God created everything, and Jesus is attributed creation in Hebrews 1:10,
that Jesus therefore must be God. First, we will star with Hebrews 1:2
"Though a Son, whom he made heir of all things and through whom he created the world." (sometimes it is
translated as universe).
The word that is translated as "world" is the Greek word aion. It means ages, as in the present
evil age and the Messianic age to come.
Aion- This word has been translated as eternal, world, and universe. When this word is translated as
"eternal," such as "you will have eternal life," it means "you will have life in the age to come."
This is Strong's Greek dictionary's (which is in the Strong's Concordance) definition of this word. It is number 165 in
Strong's, please look it up.
Age (aion) - 1. An
unbroken age, perpetuity of time, eternity. 2. This word is also used to describe this age, i.e. this time period we
are in now, and the time period to come, i.e. the Messianic age.
Hebrews 1:2 is speaking of the world (age) to come, the Messianic world. The New Earth and New
Heavens.
Hebrews 1:10 is a continuation of this thought. It is a passage of creation that was attributed to God
in the Old Testament. Here it is used for the Son because through the Son (his death on the cross) will be created the
New Earth and New Heavens. Flip the page to Hebrews 2:5 and it will clear up any doubt that you might have on
what world we are talking about.
Hebrews 2:5: "For it was not to angels that he subjected the WORLD TO COME, of WHICH WE ARE
SPEAKING."
This is in agreement with Hebrews 1:2. If not we have a massive contradiction.
Jesus is responsible for the creation of the Messianic age (world) to come. These passages do not mean
that Jesus created this earth and heaven. You have the scriptures in front of you, you decide.
Romans 9:5
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all.
This translation appears only in the NIV as far as I have found. It is definitely not the most accepted
translation. The Amplified Bible, KJV, NASB, NRSV, and the Rheims New Testament to name a few, all have it worded
differently and are also in agreement with the Catholic NAB. Romans 9:5 NAB:
"Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them, according to the flesh, is the Messiah. God who is over all be
blessed forever."
NAB Footnote: Some editors punctuate this verse differently and prefer the translation, "Of whom is
Christ according to the flesh, who is God over all." However, Pauls point is that God who is over all aimed to
use Israel, which had been entrusted with every privilege, in outreach to the entire world through the Messiah.
The context of this verse is not on the deity of Jesus, but on his ancestry, which is from the patriarchs.
Compare this verse to 2 Corinthians 11:31 of the same writer.
"The God and Father of the Lord Jesus knows, he who is blessed forever, that I do not lie."
Who is blessed forever? The God and Father of Jesus. Using the principle of comparison of text with
text, it is most likely that Paul describes the Father as "God over all."
Matthew 1:23
And they shall call him Emmanuel, which means "God is with us."
This verse has been used to imply that Jesus is God. But this verse is not saying that God is with us AS
the person of Jesus, but IN the person of Jesus. This is how He has visited His people. Lets compare this
verse with other verses in the Bible.
Acts 10:38: "How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power. He went about doing
good and healing all those oppressed by the devil, for God was with him."
John 8:29: "The one who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone."
Luke 7:16: "A great prophet has arisen in our midst, and God has visited His people."
John 3:2: "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher from God, for no one can do these signs that
you are doing unless God is with him."
Acts 7:9: "And the patriarchs, jealous of Joseph, sold him into slavery in Egypt; but God was with
him."
Zechariah 8:23: "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you."
By comparing texts we get a much better picture of what Matthew meant. God is with us, present among His people
IN the person of Jesus. The meaning of a name (which by the way was never used by Jesus) cannot be used by
itself to imply that he is God. Here are a few more Biblical names and their meanings:
Eli My God.
Elijah God the LORD or Yahweh God.
Elihu My God Himself.
Ithiel God with me.
Joel - The LORD God.
If you insist on using this text to prove the divinity of Jesus, then we have to make Eli, Elijah, Elihu,
Ithiel, and Joel God also.
CONCLUSION I have spent a lot of time going over each
and every Scripture relating to this subject, and the Bible is very consistent. I have not found one verse that
contradicts this thought.
One last point to be said. Some people I talk to about this will get all defensive and hostile when they are
confronted with Scriptures which completely contradict the trinity, and finally say to me "Well, it doesnt
really matter as long as you worship God." But the question I put to you is this, Are you really worshipping
God? If Jesus is not God, are you not committing idolatry by making Jesus "God the Son?" Yes you are! Jesus
did say:
"Worship the LORD your God, and serve Him ONLY" (Matthew 4: 10).
Also, John 17: 3 states:
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom
you have sent."
Make sure you know the ONLY TRUE GOD and His Son Jesus Christ. Remember, it is part of the greatest
commandment to know that God is one (Mark 12: 29).
If after this paper you still think that I am wrong, please take the time to go to the Scriptures and try to
prove me wrong. Dont just say, "Hes wrong," and forget all about it. According to Scripture, there
is a little more at stake than one would imagine.
Please pray to God to show you the truth, whatever that might be. But dont let pride and human tradition
get in the way. I am just presenting you with information. I am not here to convince you, God will take care of that,
if it is his will.
May God and His glorious Son Jesus always be with you.
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